for - value.prop - IndyWeb - Net Dashboard - launch community

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protocols not platforms

commons based peer produced ambient autnonomous FAIR constellations of long tail, long term software internet

https://indy.trailmarks.co/ipfs/QmeBGhQfuAMrssvynkrbEyXnWJPhv7iNWdjBMze7Ni9D2C/pdf/viewer/web/viewer.html?file=

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ambient hypothesis without the need for a proxy

hypothesis embed

Yes, that's Trailmarks on the Indyweb

Open HyperDocument System on the interpersonal interplanetary web

the IndyWeb

the flipped web

(inter)personal net dashboard

claim chart

open source components enable annotation systems

for Open Hyperdocument System

back to the future project IndyWeb

flooded with - more in-form-ation channels than we can handle - conversations hapining in more places - then we can keep track of

solution to : infoglut - let conversations come to us shared across participants - along with all the capabilities that we need - in a way that they do their work on our own devices - rendered interoperable - and composable to create our own(ed) worklfows - we need to synthesize these information flows - co-creating the Open Mutual Learning Commons - delivering on the original hope for the Web - the ability to creat meaningful connections between people ideas and work reflected in HyperMedia

add script tag

https://web.archive.org/web/19961220012005/http://www.byte.com/art/9611/sec9/art1.htm

websites could be woven together

componentware

common reader for the web faded

// we need a commons based collaborative writer for the Web We need to Flip the current Paradigm for the Web

Shifitng the paradigm to be DECENTralized is a decent move

but we need to flip it entirely from being Centralized, location addressed to People Centered, and intent addressed based on content addressability with protocls that support this like IPFS

we can build Software as a Conversation with "Intent-Addressability" on the Web as IndyWeb what we need what we want is the dual of everything there is

to deliver on the original Hope not quite promise of the Web: Open meaningful connections between all the People and Information that they engage with this

Bring Your Own Indy Net Dashboard to the Web BYOIND

and co-create the commons-based, peer produced constellations for the IndyWeb

that is People-Centric instead of Server-Centric

puts humanity at the center of everything we do with tech

FAIR Information, no longer disguised and extracted as data

and FAIR Apps for our owned Dashboard for the Web

solve - Inflogut/FOMO by deeply integrating - social web annotation like - hypotheis - WorldBrain's to start with - annotation searches - IndyWeb Net Dashboard

personal information diet

[test](http://localhost:8080/rte/?concept%20-%C2%A0PlexEme}

//@Gyuri Your "net dashboard" link doesn't work for me

pub sub to diverse feeds in a common way

what's wrong: - silos can shut down their feeds - we allowed ourselves to get herded into them

we can break free with the IndyWeb

what would be a great thing for : people - no longer denigrated to be user loosers

make easy to connect with - friends - family - coworkers - news and other information sources

• join emergent interest based autonomous social networks as Autnomous Actors operating their owned Hubs

the closest thing is : email

envision a dashboard that - subscribes to & - manages notifications from - all my sources

• new idea
• new term
• FOMO

• new idea 4me
• infoglut

imagine a - next-gen reader - // make it an interpersonal collaborative writer too - bring me the open web & my social circles - with me as an Autonomous Actor operating my own(ed) interpersonal IndyHub - attend to and manage all the flow. - // contribute to as well

example : FlowReader been around since 2013.

ten years on : make it a collaborative Web Flow - reader & writer distributor syndicator collaborator - weawing interpersonal networks of Trust - co-creating not only information as value flows - but co-creating the very means needed to create and improve upon them

follow - wide assortments of - informnation flows - in my Own(ed) Net DashBoard -

on the IndyWeb

BIOmastodonte

Mastodon has RSS feeds available for tags!

https://blog.jonudell.net/2022/11/28/autonomy-packet-size-friction-fanout-and-velocity/

contradictory sequence of words

Use of Docker makes for immediate negation of "easy". At best you can say that it's easier than some other, more difficult thing, but it's not "easy". If you do, then you've got your thumb on the scale, you're doing some Hollywood-style accounting, etc.

It's not. The Hypothesis sidebar loaded from a bookmarklet is a Hypothesis client, ergo it is possible to create a hypothesis client that lives in a single file (say client.html with all scripts inlined) that can be loaded directly from the disk (or dumped onto a host that offer simple, static Web space), and even opened up in a text editor to be read/edited by hand.

Bill Seitz: Is this the GDoc/Wiki thing you had in mind?

not working for me. make: *** No rule to make target 'build'. Stop. I don't see any 'SETTINGS_FILE' anywhere in the code. I will try with just make build and hopefully it will work. OK... so the `make build does not work either. There is probably something simple that I am missing.

• Copilot

• Copilot!

• SEE

• AT LAST!
• SEE

• ok!: SQL as common language

• HERE!
• re-inventing the wheel over and over!!!

• AWS: started at: 2006-03

• DATA

• more details???

• SEE [citation needed]
• EXPLORE
• ok! "these painstaking efforts to encode knowledge"

• not designed for Semantic Web!!!

• "parallel" web???
• bots??? explore and pass

SEE

• Semantic Web: an utopia???
• I have been waiting for it for 20 years, and counting...
• Instead "plain text": "triplets"; properties and wikidata-Qs

The author's hierarchical tags are delimited by dashes(-). I do it by dots(.). That's a convention we have to decide.

https://blog.jonudell.net/2021/07/21/a-virtuous-cycle-for-analytics/

Some basic data patterns and questions occur in almost any business setting and having a toolset to handle them efficiently for both the end users and the programmers is an incredibly important function.

Too often I see businesses that don't own their own data or their contracting out the programming portion (or both).

• from : https://twitter.com/judell/status/1414612055596814339

components, connectors and data...oh my

My eye doctor just recommended me to buy a handful of these as my sight isn't (yet) bad enough to warrant something stronger and more expensive. I would have probably done the same as you, but now I know better. Thanks!

Suggest thinking in terms of Personal First, Feed Writer s. The ability to invite others to read/co-create/co-curate shared channels of interests. What is communicated becomes part of your own knowledge flow, remixable, you can comment, suggest and re-share. No more silos.No Privacy Terms, that violate your privacy, but peer to peer , peer to community, community to peer agreements backed up by trusted but verifiable means of corresponding communication capabilities that are Open, commons based, peer co-created, that come to the the individual, no longer treated as "user looser' having to go to some place that provides what they need. There is of course place for federation, and even centralization, but they should be the exception, not the norm. aim to complete not to compete. We need a ploy-centric web where individuals are hubs to themselves.

https://social.coop/@indiehub

Interesting The trend is way down. It got so bad that it is not worth mentioning it, with no solution in sight,

What we need is for people to be able to connect with each others directly, create/join/curate conversations on topics that matter to them, ones that come to them, along the very means needed to conduct them collaboratively.

make it self-directed

flip the classroom

actually flip everything

Let capabilities come to the individuals to "improve their intellectual effectivenesss" and provide the constalleations needed to connect with each other in their own inter personal networks where they act as their own Hubs in the network for the benefit of participants

user innovation toolkit

Too much of modern social networking suffers from this fabric of trust and rampant context collapse. How can we improve on these looking forward?

I went down a rabbit hole just the other day on this topic. Bookmarking this for for some future journeys.

I love del.icio.us bookmarks, that I used to catalog my web surfings, classify and share them. Upon its demise I went for Keep with good Web & Android client but without easy public sharing. Could hypothes.is be used as I did use del.icio.us? Edit2021: Looking at h. again after two years plus.

I'm currently hoping that the next wave of social readers based on Microsub and which also support Micropub will be a major part of the answer.

Of course, how would she know that the annotation exists? Here's another example of where adding webmentions to Hypothesis for notifications could be useful, particularly when they're more widely supported. I've outlined some of the details here in the past: http://boffosocko.com/2016/04/07/webmentions-for-improving-annotation-and-preventing-bullying-on-the-web/

The FAQ: https://votefwd.org/faq

I published an unofficial Firefox extension here. Just download and install the XPI file. Go here for a discussion about it. So far only thing I found that doesn't work is annotating local PDFs, because Firefox is more restrictive about this than Chrome.

PurpleSlurple.

Come on Slack! :/

What part is that?

They were--or thinking of them as such is a useful metaphor for extending what's possible in composition.

Understatement.

We need to embrace this principle, and make sure that it cannot be exterminated later. see Google Removes 'Don't Be Evil'

the design prinicple we need to embrace, and ensure that it cannot be exterminated

principle of least knowledge - Systems should be designed to limit the operator's access to user data.

An even smaller neighborhood are the folks lurking in an annotation over your post, since they're disconnected from the comment roll below. Possibly an integration opportunity?

Given that the default behavior in Hypothesis is to post publicly, a ~50% opt-out rate seems like a pretty strong signal. I'd be curious to know what the opt-out rate would be if publishing defaulted to private notes rather than public annotations.

The benefits of reading out aloud ... and dictating into speech-to-text app ...

Interestingly, I came to this post in my feed reader while randomly looking for something I could use as an example in something I was writing about feed readers!!!

A brilliant ending!

Right. Time I revisit this idea: "Robust Hyperlinks"

could be fun

Transclusion of annotations, as footnotes, by way of direct links.

Open web annotation of audio and video

I'm reminded of a JavaScript tool written by Aaron Parecki that automatically adds a start fragment to the URL of his page when the audio on the page is paused. He's documented it here: https://indieweb.org/media_fragment

Jon, this is certainly an awesome and interesting way to target audio on the web, which can be tremendously useful.

Given what you've got here, I suspect that you may be unaware of the W3C spec for media fragments which may make portions of what you're attempting to do a bit easier (and also much more standardized). The spec is relatively broadly supported by most browsers, so it immediately makes things a tad easier from a plumbing perspective.

Some people will be somewhat familiar with the targeting technique as it's similar to the one used by YouTube which lets users hot link to specific portions of video on their platform.

To summarize the concept, on most audio and video files one can add a #t=XXX the the end of a URL where XXX is the number in seconds into the file where one wants to start. One can target stretches of audio similarly with the pattern #t=XXX,YYY where XXX is the start and YYY is the stop time for the fragment, again in seconds.

As an example I can use it to specifically target the audio  on a particular standalone audio file like so:

https://media.martymcgui.re/70/d5/f1/77/975194c74454dc7a3ef71586bf98612a94bcb5685f7e7d3ca60dc183.mp3#t=269

With some clever JavaScript, one can go a step further and implement this at the level of targeting audio/video as embedded on a particular page which may contain a wealth of additional (potentially necessary) context. As an example of this, we can look at the audio above in its original context as part of a podcast using the same type of time fragment notation:

https://martymcgui.re/2017/10/29/163907/#t=269

As an added bonus, on this particular page with audio, you'll notice that you can play the audio and if you pause it, the page URL in your browser should automatically refresh to indicate the particular audio timestamp for that particular position! Thus in your particular early example it makes things far easier to bookmark, save, or even share!

For use within Hypothesis, I suspect that one could use this same type of system to directly annotate the original audio file on the original page by using this scheme, potentially by using such JavaScript within the browser plugin for Hypothesis.

It would be nice if the user could queue up the particular audio segment and press pause, and then annotate the audio portion of the page using such a targeting segment. Then one could potentially share a specific URL for their annotation (in typical Hypothesis fashion) that not only targets the original page with the embedded audio, but it could also have that audio queued up to the correct portion (potentially with a page refresh to reset the audio depending on the annotation.)

The nice part is that the audio can be annotated within the page on which it originally lived rather than on some alternate page on the web that requires removing the context and causing potential context collapse. It also means one doesn't have to host an intermediate page to have the whole thing work.

For more information on the idea, take a peek at the IndieWeb's page on audio fragments which includes a few examples of people using it in the wild as well as a link to the JavaScript sample for doing the targeting within the page itself.

I'm curious if the scheme may make putting all the smaller loose pieces together even easier, particularly for use within Hypothesis? and while keeping more of the original context in which the audio was found?

I also suspect that these types of standards could be used to annotate audio in much the same way that the SoundCloud service handles their audio annotations, though in a much more open way. One would simply need to add on some additional UI to make the annotations on such audio present differently.

Just for fun, this type of sub-targeting on web pages also works visually for text as well with the concept of fragmention. As an example of this, I can target this specific paragraph with this link http://boffosocko.com/2018/01/07/reply-to-annotating-web-audio-by-jon-udell/#Just+for+fun, and a snippet of JavaScript on the page creates a yellow highlighting effect as well.

AT&T has a habit of pushing unlimited data plans for an extra $5 per month -- without telling you that the deal will remove your tethering ability, for which they now want an additional $30 per month.

my favorite grain of sand

against the inherent laziness of sand

great metaphor, but calls to mind the Piss Boy in Mel Brooks' History of the World, Part I

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OBWctrEVOSA

hypothes.is use case value

I think one of the ideas I'm struggling with here. Is web annotation just about research, or to advance conversation on the web? I sense this is part of decentralization too (thus, an ecosystem), but where does it fit?

Dhruv: Does this point in the right direction?

I love the "exact" anchor!

This is useful for users concerned about changing content--should probably be articulated somewhere on the h site.

Requirements to make this vision fully functional. Lays the foundation for the type of granular provenance that we're envisioning for next generation scholarship.

So I guess I'll have to start using this term instead of "nugget" :)

Really cool.

This is a powerful differentiator from Comments.

This is so important to understand.

Love it!

The vision here seems more of a set of tools that can be integrated into various platforms rather than a single platform with a set of features. In this way, it's very similar to the idea behind EDUCAUSE's NGDLE initiative--or even Canvas's LTI-based app store.

This.

Jon Udell and Mike Caulfield discuss web annotation and personal wikis as tools for fact-checking on the Internet.

Annotran implements https://github.com/birkbeckOLH/annotran/blob/1572cf301633821446f49c53dd39fe0305be9561/annotran/static/scripts/annotator/plugin/sentenceselection.coffee which lives in this neighborhood.

I’ve found Canvas to be less draconian than I’d been led to expect. More broadly, the LMS ecosystem that’s emerged — based on a standard called Learning Tools Interoperability (LTI), now supported by all the LMS systems — led me to an insight about how the same approach could help unify the emerging ecosystem of annotation systems. Even more broadly, all this has prompted me to reflect on how the modern web platform is both more standardized and more balkanized than ever before.

...

The app I’ve written is a thin layer of glue between two components: Canvas and Hypothes.is. LTI defines how they interact, and I’d be lying if I said it was easy to figure out to get our app to launch inside Canvas and respond back to it. But I didn’t need to be an HTTP, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, or Python wizard to get the job done.

When I dabbled in the webpage parsing space, for a project that allowed researchers to undertake content analysis of student web content. Reliably parsing the content, such as identifying each whole comment on a page was the difficult issue. I'm not of Hypothesis ability in this area, as I've just signed up to make this annotation, but if you've solved that problem then I can imagine a whole range of interesting apps might be created as plugins for hypothesis.

Sounds a lot like the way reference managers work. In many cases, people keep the invalid or badly-formed results.

Sounds like there’s been a bit of a move towards partnership, recently. But much discourse on automation is about the complete exclusion of human intervention.

Under the current mode of action.

That dream does live on. Since Vannevar’s 1945 article on the Memex, we’ve been dreaming of such tools. Our current tools are quite far from that dream.

This pithy statement brings together all sorts of previous annotations. Would be neat to map them.

Pinch & Bijker

Thinking back on that flurry of activity a year ago, that's what most engaged me too.

The ways humans decide to make meaningful connections between sources are important to me. I want to know who is connecting content and what those connections look like.

Linking documents and then examining those connections feels more powerful than making copies of documents a la Caulfield's federated wiki.

Could this be the next version of searching the web; searching connections rather than content? Mining links between content.

I love the YouTube videos of his demos. I was only recently made aware of them and was blown away by how many of their ideas are now realities.

As the next incarnation of web searching?

Love the work machines can do, but I think I will always value the connections that people, and individuals, establish among each other.

Was this before @judell joined @hypothes_is?

It is easy to allow technology to replace memorization and other skills. We should be mindful of what we allow it to replace. Martin Luther King had a large store of writings memorized -- and it served him well when he wrote the Letter from a Birmingham Jail.

We need more tools that will aid skill development instead of replacing useful skills. Spaced repetition software to assist memorization is one example. Phrase-by-phrase music training programs are another. The same ideas can be applied to memorization of text.

Very much looking forward to this!

Me too @jon! Good luck to you!

PS it seems like it'd be a very small step from open annotation to allowing somebody to produce a chunk of original content (that is not a reference to anything else). Then we're done :)

:bowtie:

Jon Udell on productive social discourse.

changeable minds<br> What’s something you believed deeply, for a long time, and then changed your mind about?

David Gray's Liminal Thinking points out that we all have beliefs that are built on hidden foundations. We need to carefully examine our own beliefs and their origins. And we need to avoid judgment as we consider the beliefs of others and their origins.

Wael Ghonim asks us to design social media that encourages civility, thoughtfulness, and open minds rather than self-promotion, click-bait, and echo chambers.

It was hard to pull together the sources for this and correlate them. I spent a lot of time refinding table 14 in article foo, for example.

Doing it over again today I'd get a ton of mileage out of Hypothesis annotation.

I've been thinking about this metaphor, and about comments on blogs vs. blogs linking to blogs. In some ways this is another part of the Wikipedia vs. Federated Wiki question. I say "vs." because the alternatives do become binary at some point in the conversation. But back to the owning vs. sharecropping: in terms of web presence, maybe; in terms of discourse and rhetoric and the ways call and response differ, maybe not. I'll keep thinking. And I'm grateful for the heads-up that Hypothes.is is at last up and running!

Beavers are great for water conservation: they create ponds by damming creeks, and they also dig to make them deeper.

We could be collecting the rain water that flows off our roofs (and also elsewhere), but very few people do -- at least not in the US.

I would love to see a worthy successor to delicious. Is hypothesis it?

Annotating via via

Pagenote

That's done to accommodate sites who's DOM changes either over time or during user interaction (single page apps, etc).

This blog post explains the current approach and thinking behind it in Hypothes.is: https://hypothes.is/blog/fuzzy-anchoring/

@judell I only mentioned you on twitter because this is where I found out about this feature, which would be useful for making archival copies.

This annotation made against http://blog.jonudell.net/2015/04/05/adventures-in-annotation/

Is it? (News Genius, that is.)

Really glad this is stated. Many comments on #TateGate are blaming Ella Dawson for her flawed perception. As “blaming the victim” is an unbelievably common occurrence in issues of domestic violence and sexually transmitted infections, there’s something quite bitter about the whole situation.

Daydream alert! Not that it’s necessarily the best solution or the only one. But it’s much easier to start building appropriate tools when the door is open to difficult ideas like negotiation than closing down discussion right away by claiming that nothing can be done besides a variant of the current system.

Negotiation is a complex process.

The notion that everyone (who matters) now has the equivalent of a printing press is an interesting part of the scriptocentric worldview.

And even setting things up so that thoughtful commentary is specifically encouraged. The tool may be part of it but the key difference, in my own personal experience, is about the first few interactions. When @RemiHolden invites annotations to his blogposts about annotations, he does so in the context of a burgeoning community of practice around open annotations for pedagogy. Much closer to the climate science case and, interestingly, quite close to the very memos and Requests for Comments at the origin of the Internet.

Which jurisdiction?

Again, it might be useful to distinguish the layers involved in the “publication” process. Including the climate scientists cited and quoted in the story. The journalist writing the story. The photographer providing a vivid depiction of the effects of climate change. Advertisers paying for the news site’s survival with advertorial about somewhat more “Earth-friendly” SUVs. Uncredited sources for the story. The mega-corporation behind the news site and all its affiliates… There’s copyright, moral rights to the image, reputations of everyone involved, etc.

And socially appropriate, and productive, and fun…

Useful list. Would make sense to spend some time discussing differences between individual content creators and major outlets since the discussion at Hypothesis seems to hinge on the “speaking truth to power” ideal. Technically, Automattic might be the publisher in Ella Dawson’s case. But she’s the one receiving the grief from people working for or with Genius Media Group.

Blog rings disappeared as commercial entities started using comment sections for their own purposes.

A small group of people with a vision. That might be the start of many a narrative, especially in the US, but there’s a difficult and complex transition to a much more diverse world where a shared sense of belonging is hard to maintain.

And diversified in the process, authority shifted.

This is so well-crystallized. I wonder if "ownership" is less about protection, though, and more about the space to be heard. If ownership in open digital spaces has something to do with communication, then I wonder how it might be compromised by closing down communication channels. How is ownership of a blog post different than ownership of a physical house (for example)? People don't need an invitation to come into your blog, and the expectation of the blog is that you will impact your readers...that you will have readers. There is no expectation that you will have guests into your home, ever...not if you don't want to. Anyway, I appreciate tools like the LMS (in education) that carve out private or protected online spaces for collaboration, or ePortfolio platforms like Mahara that offer students spaces to store and protect their work privately. But on the open web, what does "ownership" mean? (Related note, Robin: define the "open web.")

Here's the link!

I think this probably creates a copyright issue.

Also, who would do the cloning, where would it be hosted. This would essentially fork content, and perhaps result in an even greater loss of control? What happens if the blogger wants to update the master, how do they update the copy?

So refreshing to hear actors in the scene allowing for deeper learning!

At least, it boils down ambiguity to straightforward specs.

Especially tricky when the tension involves raising awareness of sexual issues while maintaining your sanity.

Very commendable, especially the acknowledgment that it’s not merely a complicated issue of legal and ethical concerns in the United States of America’s news organisations.

There’s a whole chapter on this, to be written (and annotated). A key point, which is most often discussed by social scientists than by literary scholars or engineers, is that “groups” differ wildly in their shape, size, internal diversity, dynamics, growth, structures, etc.

One might even say that it’s a complex situation, not merely a complicated one, since these “variables” interact with one another in unpredictable ways. Through time.

On a page-by-page basis or sticking for a whole session?

In the “speaking truth to power” model, this affordance is an issue.

This type of opt-in requires a prior understanding of “what’s out there”. Current systems, including Hypothesis, are quite far from allowing this type of granularity. If one browses to a CBC page about pipeline projects and enables Hypothesis on that page to see what climate scientists have to say about it, the only way it could work is if all climate scientists annotating the page belonged to the same group and the reader had already specifically restricted annotations to come from that group. In the Genius case, she’s more likely to see snarky gifs than thoughtful exegesis from climate scientists. In Canada, the situation would have been worse just a few months ago, as many scientists were muzzled.

In some cases, this annotation layer is visible without this page-by-page opt-in.

As part of their job, many scientists have a responsibility to inform the public and science attracts people who share this sense of duty. Yet, oftentimes, scientists remain in such hermetic modes of discourse that their words aren’t understand by “the general population” (which includes a lot of brilliant people from other spheres of expertise).

Two key features of this case: experts in a field share a lot in advance and teaming up is quite different from the fluid world of social interactions (cf. Tuckman). In other words, this case is about “likeminded people” who may disagree on a lot of things and be quite different on a personal level but have a common “code”, in the linguistic sense. The early Internet was like that, the early Web was like that, and early blogging was pretty much like that.

That sets a rather high bar for dissent.

It’s often useful to distinguish content creators from publishers, as Doug Schepers does.

A small group of people picking up where others have left off. There have been many attempts at building annotation systems. Something interesting about the current is the map of connections between those who are trying to build new tools, based on an emerging standard. For one thing, it tends to be heavily rooted in the United States despite the fact that the Web and the Net as a whole are much less US-centric than before.

In radically different contexts, these two services came upon a rather busy scene. We frequently discuss these two, as though they started the movement to converge towards this form of “social media”. The focus on “personal branding” is a big part of the narrative.

Right after the bubble burst, blogging became an important outlet for geeks who had more time on their hands.

Many professional bloggers lost traffic and looked for other ways to gain it back.

Sounds nostalgic but it’s very difficult to compare the current context with that one in part because the changes intervening in the meantime have been complex. Jenny Cool and Howard Rheingold may have neat insight on other contexts, pre-UserLand.

Sounds like there were many other reasons that most Internet-based initiatives stayed civil in their early days. Some of them have to do with human diversity.

This annotation made from http://blog.jonudell.net/2015/05/13/farewell-to-bookmarklets/

Advice from someone who's done this would be most appreciated!